WTF are Rods? UFOs

Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:19 pm » by **Electrobadgr**

I started reading about these Rods the other day and wanted to get a DTV consensus. These are apparently flying creatures that can travel at speeds of 1000mph and have been caught on film several times by accident. I have never heard of this phenomenon before and wondered if you guys had?

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicrods.html
The Mysterious Rods

Since 1994 strange serpent-like creatures have been captured on film flying through our skies. Are these so-called 'Rods' of ET origin or a new form of terrestrial life?

After hearing of numerous UFO sightings in his local area of Monterrey, Mexico, a man called Santiago Ytturia decided to set up his camera equipment to see if he could catch one of these unusual objects on film. After waiting for more than an hour on the day of 19th of March, 1994, Ytturia started to become restless, but just as he was about to give up hope, his patience was rewarded. Suddenly, he spotted a flashing light and began filming. Unfortunately the light disappeared quickly and after waiting in vain for further activity, Ytturia decided to dismantle his camera and replay the video to see what he had captured on film. On reviewing the film he could see the strange light of the UFO, but then a few frames further on, Ytturia saw something else that puzzled him even more.

After the UFO had disappeared on the film, Yturria noticed the brief appearance of a long spear-like object, which darted across the screen at an incredible speed. After constantly replaying the footage he realised that this object could not be a bird or insect. In fact this object was moving so fast that it could only be spotted when the film was viewed frame by frame. Ytturia knew instantly that he had captured something new on film, but was it linked to the UFO or was it a completely new phenomena?

Since then, many more 'rods' have been captured on film from all over the world. One of the key investigators into the 'rods' phenomenon is video production company owner Jose' Escamilla. So far, Escamilla, who is in charge of a team of independent investigators, has obtained spectacular footage and photographs from a wide range of countries, including the UK, Sweden, Canada, Norway, Mexico and the USA. He even has footage of rods underwater. What is generally agreed is that these strange objects are organic. In other words, they are living creatures and not just some new form of flying saucer. Some people have suggested that they maybe a form of extraterrestrial life form because they are occasionally encountered with UFO activity. Some sceptics would have us believe that what we are seeing is nothing more than birds, insects or camera trickery, but as you can see from the film footage on this page, this does not seem to be a conclusive explanation.

Despite the difference of opinion on the nature of rods, close examination of the video footage has uncovered a number of consistent features. Analysis reveals that the rods seem to be cylinder-shaped 'creatures' that range in length from about 10 centimetres to 3 metres, and can travel at speeds of up to 300 kmh. They appear to fly through the air by using an undulating solid membrane which vibrates extremely rapidly on each side of its body (similar to how a squid propels itself through water).

Because of the speed that they move, it can be difficult to capture rods on film. Even with 30 frames per second (fps), good video cameras still have problems capturing detailed pictures of rods. With rods moving up to speeds of 300 kmh, the video is only capable of capturing a few frames of footage before they disappear. Also, because of the fast movement, the video images of rods generally lack resolution, meaning that it is hard to see fine details, such as if these 'creatures' possess eyes or even a head.

What seems to be the best footage taken so far of rods was filmed by Mark Lichtle who is a professional cameraman for US television. He was making a film of parachutists jumping into a deep, vertical cave near San Luis Potosi, Mexico. As in most cases, the rods were only noticed when the film was reviewed later. On observing the slow-motion video, Lichtle saw numerous rods darting in and out of the frame and flying around the base jumpers as they fell through the air (see picture left). In one shot, a rod avoids colliding with one of the jumpers by veering sharply away at the last second.

Optical expert Bruce Maccabee, better known for his analysis of UFO footage, has viewed the film and confirms that the objects are between 2 and 4 metres in length, therefore ruling out the possibility of birds or insects. In 1997, Escamilla attempted to gain scientific recognition of the phenomena by taking a selection of his footage to zoologists and entomologists from the University of Colorado. 'They were totally baffled,' states Escamilla. 'All they could say was that it was unlike anything they had ever seen and that it deserved further study'.

Biologist Ken Swartz has been investigating the rods phenomenon since 1998 and says 'Rods appear to be biological, but without a physical specimen it is difficult to say anything conclusively. They seem to be amphibious, as they have been seen entering and leaving water. Perhaps they are born in the sea and emerge into the air?' Speculating from the eyewitness testimony of people who have seen them, Swartz maintains that they appear to have some similarities to the family of creatures known as cephalopods, such as squids. 'There have been descriptions of them expanding like a balloon and rapidly deflating,' he states 'so they could be using a mechanism similar to a squid which sucks in water and jets it out for propulsion.'

If rods are biological entities, why has no one, so far, found the body of a dead rod? If they are flying around us all the time as is commonly believed, then how is it possible that not a single body has been discovered on the ground? Swartz explains that if the rods are indeed similar to squid, they will not have any hard body parts and so could decompose without a trace. Swartz points out 'If you look at the fossil record, there is only one creature that ever lived that had the rod mode of locomotion, and this was the dominant predator of the time called anamalocaris, which lived in the sea during the Cambrian evolutionary expansion 400 million years ago.' According to Swartz 'the creature propelled itself by a row of plates or fins that vibrated in a similar manner to the membranes seen on rods, it is possible that anamalocaris is the evolutionary ancestor of rods.'

http://www.alieneight.com/flying-rods-caught.htm

Flying Rods Caught

There is a theoretical new and unique form of life now actively flying through the air in our environment. Some believe that they are all around us. So what are they? Is there any evidentiary support?

Some of the characteristics of these flying rods are quite intriguing. They are shaped like rods and can vary in size from just a few centimeters to many meters in length. They are zipping through the air at enormous speeds. They are nearly invisible to the naked eye, but can be captured via video or film. Some have appendages along the torso that resemble fins. And they do not appear to be mechanical, they seem to be alive and possibly have intelligence.

So, how have these Flying Rods caught the public attention? They brought into the public eye in 1994, thanks to filmmaker Jose Escamilla. He filmed some mysterious and unexplainable objects in Midway, New Mexico. On March 5, 1994 Escamilla filmed about 16 minutes of footage that contained UFOs. On March 19, 1994 he had the Flying Rods caught on film. This was the first recording of the phenomenon ever documented. Since then, many people have had these Flying Rods caught (or what they think are Flying Rods) on film, in pictures and videos.

Theory proponents say that there is no possibility that the Flying Rods can be known objects. All of the evidence centers around the photographs and the Flying Rods caught on tape and on film. There are also non-photographic pieces of evidence like ancient cave drawings that can be depicted as the Flying Rods. But, no one has the desire to make an active case for the evidence so it doesn’t get attended to much at all.

Since the evidence is based only upon the photographs and video, the theory of this phenomenon isn’t well supported because the evidence is flawed. With the motion-blue effect of “fins” on a Flying Rod is consistent an inset beating its wings very quickly.

After analysis of the footage, it is clear that the objects cannot possibly be as big as reported or they could easily be seen without the use of any specialized equipment. And in addition to that, it just isn’t possible for video to be able to capture something like that without being visible.

There is plenty of information to find online and in the media regarding the Flying Rods caught on tape and in photographs. In 2002 there was a television documentary called Rods! The documentary is produced and directed by John Moffet who was also responsible for such titles as Conspiracy Theory: Did We Land on the Moon? (2001) and World's Scariest Ghosts: Caught on Tape (2000). The footage used in Rods!, primarily focuses on the video footage by Jose Escamilla. There are also interviews with Escamilla and various other rod researchers, along with mentions of other UFO reports.

This theory’s main problem is that these Flying Rods caught on tape and in video can easily be explained by naturally occurring phenomena; such as birds and insects. This theory, in short, just doesn’t “Fly.”

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I realise i should have probably have posted this in cryptozoology but as they are "unidentified" i thought , what the hell?

Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:30 pm » by **Vertigo**

i found this sort of rods on wikipedia:

The Rods from God

A kinetic bombardment is the act of attacking a planetary surface with an inert projectile, where the destructive force comes from the kinetic energy of the projectile impacting at very high velocities.
The concept is encountered in science fiction and is thought to have originated during the Cold War. When taken to a significant fraction of the speed of light, kinetic projectiles become relativistic kill vehicles.

Project Thor

Project Thor is an idea for a weapons system that launches kinetic projectiles from Earth orbit to damage targets on the ground. Jerry Pournelle originated the concept while working in operations research at Boeing in the 1950s before becoming a science-fiction writer.[1]

The most described system is 'an orbiting tungsten telephone pole with small fins and a computer in the back for guidance.' The weapon can be down-scaled, an orbiting "crowbar" rather than a pole.[citation needed]

The time between deorbiting and impact would[citation needed] only be a few minutes, and depending on the orbits and positions in the orbits, the system would have a world-wide range.[citation needed] There is no requirement to deploy missiles, aircraft or other vehicles. Although the SALT II (1979) prohibited the deployment of orbital weapons of mass destruction, it did not prohibit the deployment of conventional weapons.

The idea is that the weapon would inflict damage because it moves at orbital velocities, at least 9 kilometers per second. The amount of energy released by the largest version when it hits the ground is roughly comparable to a small nuclear weapon or very large conventional bomb.[citation needed] Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 500 lb conventional bomb.[citation needed]

The "pole" shape is optimal because it enhances reentry and maximizes the device's ability to penetrate hard or buried targets. The larger device is expected to be quite good at penetrating deeply buried bunkers and other command and control targets. The smaller "crowbar" size might be employed for anti-armor, anti-aircraft, anti-satellite and possibly anti-personnel use.[citation needed]

The weapon would be very hard to defend against. It has a very high closing velocity and a small radar cross-section. Launch is difficult to detect. Any infra-red launch signature occurs in orbit, at no fixed position. The infra-red launch signature also has a small magnitude compared to a ballistic missile launch. One drawback of the system is that the weapon's sensors would almost certainly be blind during atmospheric reentry due to the plasma sheath that would develop ahead of it, so a mobile target could be difficult to hit if it performed any unexpected maneuvering.[citation needed]

While the larger version might be individually launched, the smaller versions would be launched from "pods" or "carriers" that contained several missiles.[citation needed]

The phrase "Rods from God" is also used to describe the same concept.

original link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment
quite interesting kind of rods don't you think?!

Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:34 pm » by **Electrobadgr**

Some pictures:

http://bp1.blogger.com/_hM_9ZfnuYLA/SG2 ... kyfish.jpg

couldn't embed the 3rd pic so just check out the link

Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:41 pm » by **Vertigo**

these pics remind me of jellyfish, they use that kind of movement to swim under water and we know air is much thinner and these jellyfishes are very fast underwater... maybe some sort of flying jellyfish :lol:

but i don't know

Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:57 pm » by **Electrobadgr**

I think this is the documentary mentioned above:

[googlevideo]-2270239239967750938&ei[/googlevideo]

Not watched it all yet but it looks interesting,

Enjoy

Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:09 pm » by **Pindz**

RODS = FOURTH & FIFTH DIMENSIONAL SPACECRAFTS !

Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:15 pm » by **Cornbread714**

electrobadgr wrote:This theory’s main problem is that these Flying Rods caught on tape and in video can easily be explained by naturally occurring phenomena; such as birds and insects. This theory, in short, just doesn’t “Fly.”

Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:42 pm » by **Electrobadgr**

Here is advice on how to photograph these rods or "Skyfish" yourself:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/wee ... 51302b.htm
How To Photograph Skyfish

Experiments have shown that skyfish could be virtually anywhere - possibly right outside your home. Using your home video camera, you can find out. A technique developed by actor John "Bro" Wilkie shows how to get the best results. As shown in the diagram link on this page, set up your video camera on a tripod near your home or where there is some other kind of overhang. Adjust the camera's zoom to its maximum telephoto setting. Aim the camera toward the sun - but NOT AT the sun - so that the overhang is actually blocking out the sun and the camera is only seeing the sun's corona and sky.

Start taping and let it run for 15 minutes to a half hour. When you view the tape, you might not see anything right away, or you might see insects and birds flying past the field of view. Use your video camera's or VCR's slow motion function on its slowest setting to view the video. If you're lucky, you will have captured a skyfish. If not, try again another time.

Using this method, many intriguing and utterly puzzling "sun entities" were captured on tape by one experimenter and can be seen on the "Entity/Rods/UFOs" website. These intriguing, often beautiful things, some seen in close-up detail, defy identification.

What Are They?

Strictly speaking, they are UFOs - unidentified flying objects. Apart from that, what skyfish really are is anyone's guess. Most likely they are cryptozoological creatures - animals that science has not yet identified or even recognized as being real. Some have suggested that they are alien creatures (might they even be on Mars?) or spiritual beings. Others say that, because the creatures are so elusive and ephemeral, they might be interdimensional creatures - zipping effortlessly between their dimension and ours.

We won't know what skyfish are until one can be captured for examination. But even that might prove fruitless. A person who has corresponded with José Escamilla claims to have captured a small skyfish and placed it in a jar. In this unverified case, before the specimen could be examined by a professional, the creature allegedly dissolved into a gel-like substance that quickly evaporated.

Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:40 pm » by **Mikemess**

Hey I asked about Rods when I first joined this site and I got shot down by everyone.... :headscratch:

Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:16 am » by **Electrobadgr**

mikemess wrote:Hey I asked about Rods when I first joined this site and I got shot down by everyone....

It's amazing how people can victimise the curious sometimes..... To be honest the Rods thing does seem somewhat ridiculous but as i'd never heard of them before i thought i would post a wee thread as i've never seen anyone on here talking about them.

I love a good mystery

Peace Man