Yea. We can trust Iran with Nukes...

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 9:29 pm » by 1ofakind


Division of the Ten Commandments by religion/denomination



Commandment

Jewish (Talmudic)*

Anglican, Reformed, and other Christian

Orthodox and other Christian

Roman Catholic, Lutheran**



I am the Lord your God

1

preface

1

1



You shall have no other gods before me

1



You shall not make for yourself an idol

2

2

2



Do not take the name of the Lord in vain

3

3

3

2



Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

4

4

4

3



Honor your father and mother

5

5

5

4



You shall not kill/murder†

6

6

6

5



You shall not commit adultery

7

7

7

6



You shall not steal††

8

8

8

7



You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor

9

9

9

8



You shall not covet‡ your neighbor's wife

10

10

10

9



You shall not covet‡ anything that belongs to your neighbor

10

Does not mention anything about haircuts or Nukes. So both your countrys are wrong. Now let us all :hugging: . Have a few :cheers: and enjoy the ride.

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 10:08 pm » by Smokeydog


1ofakind wrote:Division of the Ten Commandments by religion/denomination



Commandment

Jewish (Talmudic)*

Anglican, Reformed, and other Christian

Orthodox and other Christian

Roman Catholic, Lutheran**



I am the Lord your God

1

preface

1

1



You shall have no other gods before me

1



You shall not make for yourself an idol

2

2

2



Do not take the name of the Lord in vain

3

3

3

2



Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy

4

4

4

3



Honor your father and mother

5

5

5

4



You shall not kill/murder†

6

6

6

5



You shall not commit adultery

7

7

7

6



You shall not steal††

8

8

8

7



You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor

9

9

9

8



You shall not covet‡ your neighbor's wife

10

10

10

9



You shall not covet‡ anything that belongs to your neighbor

10

Does not mention anything about haircuts or Nukes. So both your countrys are wrong. Now let us all :hugging: . Have a few :cheers: and enjoy the ride.


thats wrong btw apprently thats the ten commandments moses(whoever) told the people they were the orginal god ones god smashed up cuz he dropped them or sumate apprently
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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 10:20 pm » by Flecktarn


i dont trust the USA with nukes ,,they used them ,,,twice
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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:03 pm » by Spock


Fact is the United States has nukes. So do other countries, does that fact make it okay for a country with a theocratic government to obtain them at this point in time?

The argument seems to be - well, I don't trust the U.S., leave Iran alone. The same people that HATE NUKES and HATE RELIGION are okay with a zealously religious nuclear Iran.

No logic whatsoever in that position.

Fleck, I could just as easily say I don't trust Great Britain with nukes for all the colonization in the name of the throne throughout history, that argument is bullshit as well. Or, we don't trust humans with nukes because humans do bad things to each other.

Nuclear energy and weapons, while precarious, can serve mankind, but defending Iran's right to have nukes based on idealistic positions is not going to make the world a safer place.

I imagine most of the people griping are from Great Britain, the same country whose government decides to wait a day to hold a debate in parliament on how to deal with street mobs. Or disgruntled Americans that hate the fact that the U.S. is not moving towards socialism as fast as they wish. It figures.

The fact remains, the world with a Nuclear Iran is a much less stable world, and much closer to an Armageddon scenario. Don't forget how the cold war worked. Mutually assured destruction is not on Iran's mullahs list of concerns.

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:15 pm » by Flecktarn


spock wrote:Fact is the United States has nukes. So do other countries, does that fact make it okay for a country with a theocratic government to obtain them at this point in time?

The argument seems to be - well, I don't trust the U.S., leave Iran alone. The same people that HATE NUKES and HATE RELIGION are okay with a zealously religious nuclear Iran.

No logic whatsoever in that position.

Fleck, I could just as easily say I don't trust Great Britain with nukes for all the colonization in the name of the throne throughout history, that argument is bullshit as well. Or, we don't trust humans with nukes because humans do bad things to each other.

Nuclear energy and weapons, while precarious, can serve mankind, but defending Iran's right to have nukes based on idealistic positions is not going to make the world a safer place.

I imagine most of the people griping are from Great Britain, the same country whose government decides to wait a day to hold a debate in parliament on how to deal with street mobs. Or disgruntled Americans that hate the fact that the U.S. is not moving towards socialism as fast as they wish. It figures.

The fact remains, the world with a Nuclear Iran is a much less stable world, and much closer to an Armageddon scenario. Don't forget how the cold war worked. Mutually assured destruction is not on Iran's mullahs list of concerns.

wow spock lighten up ,,is it not a fact the us has used nukes in anger ,,,,,and because i comment on religion ,to push a debate further ,singles me out ,,i thought you were smarter than that ,,yet i have rocked you because of the religion thing ,, i dont trust any government including my own ,,but i get your response its a personel one,,
and also i fought in wars and i am to old to fight in another because of paranoia of a nation
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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:25 pm » by Spock


flecktarn wrote:and also i fought in wars and i am to old to fight in another because of paranoia of a nation


I totally understand that, but when it comes to nukes, I am paranoid, because it is a powder keg, and the last thing any of us wish to see is another one going off indiscriminately killing massive populations.

For some regimes, appeasement doesn't work.

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:29 pm » by Perronick


So a guy that's been threatened and robbed and had his neighbours attacked cannot be trusted to have a gun because he might use it to defend himself? Hmmm :headscratch: May be if the guy is left alone, even if he decides to get a gun, is more of a guarantee for peace than continuing with the harassment.

Also, considering the precedents, I'm not going to buy into any more of the so called "threats" to world peace. Judging by the actions, to me is very clear who is a threat and who isn't.

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:35 pm » by Spock


perronick wrote:So a guy that's been threatened and robbed and had his neighbours attacked cannot be trusted to have a gun because he might use it to defend himself? Hmmm :headscratch: May be if the guy is left alone, even if he decides to get a gun, is more of a guarantee for peace than continuing with the harassment.

Also, considering the precedents, I'm not going to buy into any more of the so called "threats" to world peace. Judging by the actions, to me is very clear who is a threat and who isn't.



Is this guy the type of person that would saw his wife or daughters head off if they felt one of them had dishonored their family value?

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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:40 pm » by Flecktarn


spock wrote:
flecktarn wrote:and also i fought in wars and i am to old to fight in another because of paranoia of a nation


I totally understand that, but when it comes to nukes, I am paranoid, because it is a powder keg, and the last thing any of us wish to see is another one going off indiscriminately killing massive populations.

For some regimes, appeasement doesn't work.

there are powder kegs wating to go off all over the world ,the military do not see iran as a threat at all ,they are all front and bravado doing it for the public to soak up ,the soviets are bed fellows with iran and if iran wanted nukes years ago the soviets would of gave them and if not them some former soviet republic ,and any nuke set off would lead to a response its a total no win situation ,and a war needs a victor but a nuclear war no one wins ,,we all know why iran is the whipping boy of the moment ,they are no different to any backward dictatorship with stupid rules and laws yet we don't object to those nations ,and ,because they oppose the zionist's ,why else would tony blairs consultancy company be working there in iran??? ,i wish i could post some documents from work ,but if i did it would be the usual bs flag so even when presented with good hard info its take it or leave it ,,the biggest threats to us are our own goverments who's lies a deceit make us believe the fantasy's they project ,i was part of it ,,not any more
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PostMon Aug 15, 2011 11:49 pm » by abdullha14


seeing what happend in fukushima and what the earth quake and tsunami did
to the neuclear industry in japan its scary to trust any of the neuclear plants no matter where they are or how safe you think they are
some scientists say the meltdown of the reactors over there is equivalent to almost 30 times the atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima in WWII


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