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PostThu Feb 27, 2014 7:26 pm » by Giovanni


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PostThu Feb 27, 2014 10:06 pm » by SamueltheLion


wow, i loved that, great, thanks... really inspiring and moving images,
beware of the devil though.

inspiring people are great, until you realise how they have not bound themselves to laws which give life, and play hot and cold with the truth.

corinthians 11:11
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds."

not oversimplifying, just saying, be careful, by all means, look at the good, and don't throw it all away, just... don't let evil in.
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PostThu Feb 27, 2014 11:01 pm » by Cosmine


SamueltheLion wrote:wow, i loved that, great, thanks... really inspiring and moving images,
beware of the devil though.

inspiring people are great, until you realise how they have not bound themselves to laws which give life, and play hot and cold with the truth.

corinthians 11:11
"For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. Therefore it is not surprising if his servants also disguise themselves as servants of righteousness, whose end will be according to their deeds."

not oversimplifying, just saying, be careful, by all means, look at the good, and don't throw it all away, just... don't let evil in.




I second that!... but not the bible quoting... :twisted:



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PostThu Feb 27, 2014 11:46 pm » by just_the_flu


McKenna :flop:


imo everyone needs to have atleast one psychedelic experience in their life time :mrgreen:
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...some asshole thought of it, some sucker believed it, and look what its done so far...

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PostFri Feb 28, 2014 1:29 pm » by Giovanni


Sam thanks :flop:

is evil natural or unnatural?
why do we hate to be wrong. but love to be right?



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PostMon Mar 03, 2014 7:27 pm » by SamueltheLion


Giovanni wrote:Sam thanks :flop:

is evil natural or unnatural?
why do we hate to be wrong. but love to be right?

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good questions giovanni, let me think.

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still thinking...


ok

evil is and can be both natural (mundane), unnatural (not in tune with nature) and supernatural (in origin and cause), as you might have notticed, spelling the word evil backwards equals live, all beings want to live, but some beings have found a way to live from the suffering and misery and even death of other beings, i call this the first and natural / mundane evil, the evil which nature inflicts upon itself; animals eating other animals... the mundane evil.

This brings us to the second, unnatural evil, which i can only think of in human terms: when a person is overwhelmed by circumstances, they change their nature, and become "unnatural", going into a cowardly pose, too afraid to do what they naturally and actually believe to be good.

the supernatural evil has to do with the fallen angels and the fall of all creation through the "original sin" of adam and eve, some would say this is the first and last evil, the a and z or alpha and omega of evils, in biblical lore, lucifer/satan, the great fallen angel, is the "god" of this world, ruling it unjustly and subjugating all who dwell in it, apparently, when adam and eve first sinned, the entire world actually suffered a blow, and its nature went from immortal and innocent (not knowledgable) to mortal and knowledgeable.

In our day and age, we are so overwhelmed by evil, that even when we see something which truly reminds us that good exists, a good life is possible, and it IS our true nature, that glimmer of hope is so quickly snuffed out, that people fall quickly asleep again, and drown themselves in all manner of addictions, essentially distracting themselves from themselves, and from god, the inner most and most high.

why do we hate to be wrong? simple: pain and pleasure. when our beliefs are true and in accord with divine law, metaphysics and all manner of physical laws, then often, we reap benefits, when we are wrong... we reap only distress and grief.

sometimes we love to be right because of vanity and frivolous things like pride, but really, we love to be right because righteousness is what this world needs, and justice is a life giving ointment for the oppressed. the reason so few of us are? because it's just so damn fucking unbelievably scary to actually challenge the status quo, at the risk of being trampled and flogged to death by the herd.

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PostMon Mar 03, 2014 8:41 pm » by Giovanni



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sam i think we are both.
good and evil needs each other. the one cannot live without the other. if there was only evil we wouldn't know what good is. they are one and they are addicted to each other.

the problem is the volume.

if the volume is to high. you cant hear it.if its to low just the same
but in the middle everything becomes clear.

what im saying is. who do we move beyond this. and is that even possible?
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PostMon Mar 03, 2014 9:59 pm » by Nelusmc


We are all children of God. We are mirror images of the Creator. But if not born by his spirit the Holy Spirit then it's pointless. Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself. He is Spirit and he put on flesh to teach and reveal the destiny for man. He is the Loving Father. Who loves his children. So he reveals the spiritual where you can be set free from the material (Matter). The spiritual is life , while the matter is death. So think of it this way. God= spiritual while Lucifer= material (matter) which is arrogance, pride, selfishness, and so on. The only way to be born again by God's spirit is with humility. And loving God above everything and looking at another person as if you were looking in the mirror. Then the image of God will be revealed in you.

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PostMon Mar 03, 2014 10:27 pm » by Giovanni


Nelusmc wrote:So he reveals the spiritual where you can be set free from the material (Matter). The spiritual is life , while the matter is death.


so why do he need death to be born on?

why matter at all?
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PostMon Mar 03, 2014 11:25 pm » by Nelusmc


so why do he need death to be born on?

why matter at all?



Your first question why does he need death.

There has to be a duality otherwise you would not know one from the other. What is life if you don't have death. What is good without bad. What is skinny without fat and so on. But the death is only of the matter (your body). If a soul attaches itself to matter then it receives a material death like every creature that exists matter is of no use. But if your soul attaches to spirit you have life. You asked why matter at all. Without it you would not be independent from God. So therefore matter has to exist. His purpose for us is so much bigger then you can fathom. In scripture Jesus said when a woman and man are married they become one. God's purpose for man is for his children to become one with him. Which is the reason he puts his spirit within man. That only happened after his ressurection which is the purpose of his death. To create a bridge that we would be one with him. Jesus quoted to the pharisees when they wanted to kill him for saying that he was the son of God. And I quote: did I not say in my word ye are Gods. Everything in life that's worth something is a struggle. If you don't struggle for something then it loses it's value. He gives the tools and it is up to us to decide what we do with it. Choose Lucifer (matter or flesh) or God (Spiritual born with his spirit). And it's not difficult as people believe. Love God above all and your neighbor as yourself and you will be perfect in his eyes spiritually. Have compassion, Humilty, Help people these are true children of God. And he will put his spirit within a person. And he will perfect that person and reveal himself to that person and through that person.


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