Document Confirms Nikola Tesla Contact With Space People

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Contact With Space People


No Takers…:thinking:

Actually read through, albeit speed read.
And considered posting about the links between the vril society, haunebu aircraft built by bmw, and the rocket race of the 40s.

As it could be tied into this narrative.
As occult claims made by the vril were, they had received the knowledge from beings from another planet. Which sparked a race between different means of propulsion.
The nazi bell being another device channeled from another realm.

Enter operation paperclip, and NASA.
Continuing the endeavors till events or discoveries like Roswell. Made such spending obsolete, and unnecessarily in public view.

Or Edgar Cayce.

I have heard the from venus bit before. Interesting theory, but I think him to be a remarkable but very human, human.



Time Traveler Mebbe

Any Ho…

Yes Plz

Post Sum Links…

The vril

The secretive JFM, Vril and Haunebu ‘flying disk’ series

Upon studying these otherworldly, esoteric designs, Dr. W. O. Schumann and his associates from the University of Munich realized the channeling actually contained viable physics, and over the ensuing years construction was initiated to make this flying machine a reality. By 1922 development of a working prototype was underway. Meanwhile, Germany saw the inception of the National Socialist Party and Adolph Hitler’s rise to power, fueled in part by the utopian visions of a new world order inspired by the Thule and Vril Societies.

Thule and Vril secretly called this craft the Jenseitsflugmaschine, or “Other World Flight Machine”. The Gesellschafts then used their members in the German business community to raise funds for the construction of this machine under the code letters J-F-M. Two years of research was done with the JFM until 1924 when the machine was hurriedly dismantled and moved to Augsburg where it eventually was placed in storage at Messerschmitt’s facility. With the end of the war, no trace was ever found of the JFM. Perhaps it was destroyed in an Allied bombing raid or simply taken apart by the Germans themselves out of fear. No one is certain.

With the Nazi Party in power in 1933 (which itself originated from the Thule Gesellschaft) the occultists now received official backing for their continued development of the flight discs. Thule and Vril started with the RFZ (RundFlugZeug, or Round aircraft) series from 1934-41.

As war had started in 1939 the RFZ-5 became the Haunebu I and by 1941 the RFZ-7 had become the Vril 1 Jager (Hunter). The reason for the changes were due to Thule’s revolutionary Triebwerk (Thrustwork) engine that used rotating electro-magnetic-gravitic fields to affect gravity. Vril had by 1941 perfected the SM-Levitator as well and thus two new series entered limited construction, but with slightly different goals. The first purely Vril disc - the Vril 1 Jager (Hunter) was constructed in 1941 and first flew in 1942. It was 11.5 meters in diameter, had a single pilot, and could achieve 2,900 km/h - 12,000 km/h! It flew with a metal dome at first but subsequent test versions had a heavily reinforced glass dome and could seat two crew. Flight endurance was 5.5 hrs. It was planned to arm this craft with two MK-108 cannon plus 2 MG-17 machineguns. Seventeen of these craft were constructed and tested between 1942-44 with 84 test flights. The Vril 2 Zerstorer (Destroyer) was a highly advanced oval shaped disc that was much too complex for the time period; thus it was projected for 1945/46, so no construction was started. The Vril 3 and 4 may have been photographed but no surviving information is found on them. Vril 5 and 6 likewise do not show up and may have only been projects.

The Vril 7 Geist (Ghost) was 45 meters in diameter and crewed by fourteen men. It was built in 1944 and tested at Arado-Brandenburg using Vril‘s own Triebwerk. Vril’s medium Sigrun made frequent trips to the facility to oversee construction and testing. In 1944, Arado engineers approached her with a request. They wanted to know if the Vril Triebwerk could be adapted to one of their projects- the Arado E.555 strategic bomber. They were abruptly told , “No” and returned to their designs which resulted in eleven different versions of the bomber. Sigrun was actually insulted because the entire purpose of the Vril discs was aimed at space flight. No conventional bomber could withstand the heat of the velocity achieved by these machines which were constructed of hulls specially made of an advanced metal called Viktalen (in some sources Victalen or Viktalon). The Vril 1 had a single hull of this type, the Vril 7 two. The large Haunbeu III had three! With the SS supervising all aspects of the disc programs every model had to have at least theoretical provision for armament. In the Vril 7 Geist it would have been four MK-108 cannon.

The Vril 8 Odin was the last official Vril disc that was flight tested in the spring of 1945 during the collapse. This disc had an automatic Oberon upward-firing gun installation on top of the control center.
The Vril Gesellschaft had started evacuating to Base 211 in Neu Schwabenland Antarctica in March 1945 so it would seem like the Vril 8 Odin was the last Vril disc actually tested. However, some weeks after Germany surrendered both Haunebu and Vril craft were spotted in the skies over occupied Germany. Although the Vril 9 Abjager (Universal Hunter) was show as a design on paper, a craft identical to it was photographed postwar.

Vril’s final plan was the construction of a large 139 meter long cylindrical Raumschiff known by the SS E-IV Unit as the Andromeda-Gerat. Work on this “flying cigar” was to commence in 1945 at a huge, sheltered above-ground Zeppelin-like hangar. Once completed it could internally accommodate one large Haunebu IV and two Vril 2 craft, making the journey to Aldebaran, the ultimate dream of the Vril Gesellschaft.

Since 1935 the Thule Society had been scouting for a remote, inconspicuous, underdeveloped testing ground for such a craft. Thule found a location in Northwest Germany that was known as or possibly designated as Hauneburg. At the establishment of this testing ground and facilities the SS E-IV unit simply referred to the new Thule disc as a war product- the “H-Gerat” (Hauneburg Device). For wartime security reasons the name was shortened to Haunebu in 1939 and was briefly designated RFZ-5 along with Vril‘s machines once the Hauneburg site was abandoned in favor of the more suitable Vril Arado Brandenburg aircraft testing grounds.

Haunebu I first flew in 1939. The craft of which two prototypes were constructed were 25 meters in diameter, had a crew of eight and could achieve the incredible initial velocity of 4,800 km/h, but at low altitude. Further enhancement enabled the machine to reach 17,000 km/h.

Haunebu II Do-Stra
The Dornier STRAtospharen Flugzeug/Stratospheric Aircraft or Haunebu II, was tested in 1944. Two prototypes were built. These massive machines, several stories tall, were crewed by 20 men. They were also capable of hypersonic speed beyond 21,000 km/h.

Haunebu III was yet larger still was the 71 meter diameter A lone prototype was constructed before the close of the war. It was crewed by 32 and could achieve speeds of 7,000 to 40,000 km/h. It had a triple Victalen hull. It is said to have had a flight endurance of 7 to 8 weeks. The craft made 19 test flights. This craft was to be used for evacuation work for Thule and Vril in March 1945.



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The nazi bell, largely considered a hoax as it involves time travel.

The Nazi Bell (Die Glocke)

In the 1940’s Various Experiments were done using the Bell

Was it a Particle Accelerator to Enrich Uranium?
Was it an Experiment in Anti-Gravity Propulsion?
Was it used to create a Time / Space Portal…

Die Glocke (German: [diː ˈɡlɔkə], “The Bell”) was Allegedly an experiment carried out by Third Reich scientists working for the SS in a German facility known as Der Riese (“The Giant”) near the Wenceslaus mine and close to the Czech border. It was given the priority classification “Kriegsentscheidend” (decisive for the outcome of the war) the highest known category of secrecy and funding priority known in the Third Reich. No other known project had this high of the classification.

It is unclear to this day exactly what the Bell Experiments were and what the goal truly was.

Die Glocke is described as being a device “made out of a hard, heavy metal” approximately 2.7 metres (9 ft) wide and 3.7 to 4.6 metres (12 to 15 ft) high, having a shape similar to that of a large bell. According to an interview of Polish author Igor Witkowski by Cook, this device ostensibly contained two counter-rotating cylinders which would be “filled with a mercury-like substance, violet in color”. This metallic liquid was code-named “Xerum 525” and was “stored in a tall thin thermos flask a meter high encased in lead”. Additional substances said to be employed in the experiments, referred to as Leichtmetall (light metal), “included thorium and beryllium peroxides”. The device required very large amounts of electricity fed via thick cabling from the nearby power plant.

Witkowski describes Die Glocke, when activated, as having an effect zone extending out 150 to 200 metres (490 to 660 ft). Within the zone, crystals would form in animal tissue, blood would gel and separate while plants would decompose into a grease-like substance. Witkowski also said that five of the seven original scientists working on the project died in the course of the tests.

Location of the Test Sites

The Nazi Bell was initially housed in a basement beneath the Charity hospital in Berlin and thus the project was known as Charite Anlage.

In November of 1943 the bell was moved to an underground laboratory beneath Gandau airfield on the western outskirts of Breslau, now known as the Polish city of Wroclaw.

In November 1944 the bell was moved to Furstenstein Castle in Burgenland, Austria.

In December 1944 it was moved inside the abandoned Wenceslas mine (50°37′43″N 16°29′40″E), some 3.1 kilometers (1.9 mi) southeast of the main Complex Sokolec underground works of Project Riese, the ruins of a concrete framework, aesthetically dubbed “The Henge” may have once served as a test rig for an experiment in “anti-gravity propulsion” generated with Die Glocke.

In the end a SS run “Special Evacuation Kommando (command, team / unit)” evacuated the “Bell” and its supporting documentation prior to the Russians’ overrunning the facility. The research team of scientists was less fortunate;

“They were taken out and shot by the SS between April 28 and May 4, 1945. Records show that there were 62 of them, many of them Germans. There were no survivors, but then that’s hardly surprising.” ~ Igor Witkowski (Cook, Nick. The Hunt for Zero Point page 184.)

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Is There Proof The Bell Existed?

Igor Witkowski said that he first discovered the existence of Die Glocke by reading transcripts from an interrogation of former Nazi SS Lt General Jakob Sporrenberg. According to Witkowski, he was shown in August 1997 classified transcripts by an unnamed Polish intelligence contact who said had access to Polish government documents regarding Nazi secret weapons. Witkowski states that he was only allowed to transcribe the documents, and was not allowed to make any copies.

There are other various witness accounts and reports some of which include;

  • SS Lieutnant General Jakob Sporrenberg, Police Chief (ie Gestapo) Lublin (occupied Poland)
  • SS Hauptsturmfuhrer Rudolf Schuster, from interrogation report at Berlin Document Centre about evacuation of the Bell by air in 1945.
  • Dr Wilhelm Voss, Chief Executive of Skoda Works, Czechoslovakia given to Tom Agoston
  • Soviet plasma scientist G.N. Frolov in 1983 interview referred to Prof Baron Manfred von Ardenne as first hand witness.
  • Railway employee from Opole, Joachim Ibrom
  • Dr Otto Cerny (whilst working at NASA, recounted Nazi Bell to Greg Rowe)
  • Argentine Economic Ministry report declassified 1993 refers to Bell being unloaded in Argentina from a multi-engine German aircraft in May 1945

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What is the Connection to The Philadelphia Experiment?

Some say we have two experiments based on similar principles, completely cutoff from each other due to wartime secrecy…and yet they produce remarkably similar results. They believe that these are both true torsion fields, in that they bend the fabric of time-space into a variety of shapes. (read more on this here)

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The “Fly Trap” may have once served as a test rig for an experiment in “anti-gravity propulsion” generated by the Die Glocke
…Or it could just simply be the concrete base of a old water cooling tower.

A Field Investigation to “The Henge”

In November of 2005 Gerold Schelm went to investigate the area around Ludwikowice, including may of the areas mentioned in Nick Cooks book. Below is his trip report and comments on what he found.

A trip report provided by Gerold Schelm

Ludwikowice – “The Henge”

In 2001, a new book titled “The Hunt for Zero Gravity” written by noted British author Nick Cook was released. Soon it turned into a best-seller, because it proved to be a very successful and entertaining mixture of an investigational report about certain Black Projects, weird technological and scientific background information and – of course – it all linked up with rumours and hearsay reaching back to Nazi Germany and their widely ‘known’ Wunderwaffen.








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I Gotz Reading…



Can be a disincentive being on ones phone and making posts beyond pot stirring.

But that is a good few links.



Edgar Cayce.
The sleeping Prophet.

Edgar Cayce and Aliens

There are two mentions of UFO/Aliens in the Cayce readings. One is as Cayce is going back through a woman’s incarnations when he comes to her life as a Mayan priestess, saying: “The entity was among the priestesses of the Mayan experience. It was just before that period when those as from the east had come [Atlanteans], and there were the beginnings of the unfoldments of the understanding that there were … those that were visiting from other worlds or planets.” (1616-1)

The other reading implies aliens, calling them the “people of the universe” and those of us on Earth as “man.” Here is that reading: “Man may become, with the people of the universe, ruler of any of the various spheres through which the soul passes in its experiences.” (281-16)

The Strange Case of the Moon Dweller

Cayce’s reading on a Moon colony is 264-31 for a 42-year-old female homemaker: "As it has been often presented by one school of thought, the dwellers upon the Moon (the satellite of the earth) preceded the abilities for matter (expressed in a form that is known as matter in the earth). And this entity was among those that so dwelt, and is influenced by two sojourns there.”

Here Cayce is explaining that prior to souls being able to incarnate, meaning a soul becoming embodied in flesh or physical matter, preparations were being made by soul entities living in a colony on the moon. He is telling Mrs. 264 that she was among those beings.

Adding to this interesting story is a letter that Mrs. 264 wrote to Gladys Davis (Edgar’s longtime stenographer and secretary). She wrote: “You know my first appearance was on the Moon. Well, now I understand why I never get sleepy at night, and want to stay up for hours after everyone else goes to bed - much to Dr. Brenner’s exasperation and at that time I am happy and so contented - I can think, read, meditate and write with a clearness which I don’t possess in the day. I’ve never been sleepy but a few times in my life, and at night I do not recognize or even see any difficulties. In my soul I am monarch of all I survey, without even making a mental effort. I really can’t explain how I feel.” (R264-31)

She wrote again (not clear to whom, likely Gladys): “Am studying my Life Reading, also the Life Reading Pamphlet…. I was under the impression that my Life Reading said while I was a dweller on the moon that I came to earth of my own volition, seeing that I could be of service here. I don’t know how I got that idea, as I don’t understand it that way now, since I am studying it.” (R264-31)

She wrote again to Gladys, “Do you know what school of thought is referred to in my Life Reading about dwellers on the moon? Would like to read something about it if I could.” Gladys replied: “We don’t know what school of thought is referred to in regard to the moon’s indwelling. Hugh Lynn (Edgar’s elder son and president of A.R.E.) says he thinks the early Theosophists presented something like that, but he is not sure; and it seems like I’ve read something of the kind in the Rosicrucian magazines. That would be a good question to ask in a future Life Reading.”

Mrs. 264’s mother told her that when she was 3 or 4 years old “she used to gather the neighborhood children and tell them stories especially about the moon and what she did when she used to live there. One day her father gave her a spanking for telling lies, so she never talked about the moon again. Mother regretted not having had the life reading from Mr. Cayce earlier, so as not to have punished her. Was nearly two years old before she learned to sleep at night; liked to sleep during the day, keep awake all night.”


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He was working on contact that’s for sure. For me personally Tesla mentioning the discovery of Stationary Electrical Waves in the earth in beneath article got my attention.

Vril subject was nicely covered my Mr. @Fabius_Bile, have nothing to add. On Antarctica even less, lots to see and discover there but noting that reaches the public from a site with feet on the ground, it’s all google and rumours.

However have more on Tesla stuff that is interesting, like him talking about Narcotic Effects of Electricity, thing like electricity causing sleep. Key word here is High Frequency Oscillators being used for it.

Just think about the implications of this. Carrier Waves + Radio Broadcasting + Causing Sleep = Zombification?

Tesla also had worked on Weather Modification, one can only wonder how far black projects have progressed that work.


For those with taste in dusty old newspapers articles here is the link …


In regard to Antarctica,
At the end of ww2, Admiral Byrd led a fleet to the Antarctic for a survey mission reportedly.

Which included, an aircraft carrier, submarines, destroyers etc.

Claims have been made it was to chase down nazi subs, which led to the discovery of an entrance to the hollow earth.

Did US Navy battle UFOs protecting Nazi Antarctic sanctuary in 1947?


Nazi Uboats reaching Antarctica with accompanying UFOs. Artwork, Jim Nichols.

An extraordinary 2006 Russian documentary was recently translated into English revealing new information about a US Navy Antarctica expedition in 1946/47. Originally scheduled for a six month period, the “scientific” expedition was officially called “The United States Navy Antarctic Development Program,” and given the operational name Highjump. The naval component of Operation Highjump was known as Task Force 68 and comprised 4700 military personnel, one aircraft carrier (the USS Philippine Sea among the largest of all carriers of the time), and number of naval support ships and aircraft. The Naval expedition was headed by famed polar explore Admiral Richard Byrd, who had been ordered to: “to consolidate and extend American sovereignty over the largest practical area of the Antarctic continent.” Byrd’s expedition ended after only 8 weeks with “many fatalities” according to initial news reports based on interviews with crew members who spoke to the press while passing through Chilean ports. Rather than deny the heavy casualty reports, Admiral Byrd revealed in a press interview that Task Force 68 had encountered a new enemy that “could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds.”

Admiral Byrd’s statements were published in the Chilean Press but never publicly confirmed by US authorities. Indeed Byrd did not speak again to the Press about Operation Highjump, leaving it for researchers to speculate for decades over what really happened, and why Byrd was silenced. After the Soviet collapse in 1991, the KGB released previously classified files that cast light on the mysterious Byrd led Naval expedition to Antarctica. A 2006 Russian documentary, recently translated, made public for the first time a 1947 secret Soviet intelligence report commissioned by Joseph Stalin of Task 68’s mission to Antarctica. The intelligence report, gathered from Soviet spies embedded in the US, revealed that the US Navy had sent the military expedition to find and destroy a hidden Nazi base. On the way, they encountered a mysterious UFO force that attacked the military expedition destroying several ships and a significant number of planes. Indeed, Operation Highjump had suffered “many casualties” as stated in initial press reports from Chile. While there is a possibility the report resulted from US disinformation fed to a known Soviet mole, the more likely explanation is that the report exposes the first known historical incident involving a battle between US naval forces and an unknown UFO force stationed near Antarctica.

It is a historical fact that Nazi Germany devoted significant resources to the exploration of Antarctica, and established a prewar presence there with its first mission in the Antarctic summer of 1938/1939. According to a statement by Grand Admiral Donitz in 1943, “the German submarine fleet is proud of having built for the Führer, in another part of the world, a Shangri-La land, an impregnable fortress." If the fortress was in Antarctica, was it built by the Nazis, or discovered there? After the defeat of Nazi Germany, according various sources, elite Nazi scientists and leaders escaped to this impregnable fortress by Uboats, two of which experienced difficulties and surrendered in Argentina.

In the Soviet intelligence report, never before known testimony by two US Navy servicemen with Operation Highjump was revealed. A recent article in New Dawn by Frank Joseph gives a detailed analysis of the two eyewitness accounts, only the latter of which was mentioned in the 2006 Russian documentary. John P. Szehwach, a radioman stationed on the USS Brownson, gave testimony of how UFOs appeared dramatically out of the ocean depths. On January 17, 1947 at 0700 hours, Szehwach said:

I and my shipmates in the pilothouse port side observed for several minutes the bright lights that ascended about 45 degrees into the sky very quickly… We couldn’t i.d., the lights, because our radar was limited to 250 miles in a straight line.[Our Real “War of the Worlds"]

Over the next several weeks, according to the Soviet report, the UFOs flew close over the US naval flotilla which fired on the UFOs which did retaliate with deadly effects. According to Lieutenant John Sayerson, a flying boat pilot:

The thing shot vertically out of the water at tremendous velocity, as though pursued by the devil, and flew between the masts [of the ship] at such a high speed that the radio antenna oscillated back and forth in its turbulence. An aircraft [Martin flying-boat] from the Currituck that took off just a few moments later was struck with an unknown type of ray from the object, and almost instantly crashed into the sea near our vessel…. About ten miles away, the torpedo-boat Maddox burst into flames and began to sink… Having personally witnessed this attack by the object that flew out of the sea, all I can say is, it was frightening.”[Our Real “War of the Worlds"]


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Reckon They’ve Taken

Stuff Way Past

Teslas Wildest By Now…


You can count on that :+1:


Seems It’s Being

Put Into Practice

As We Speak …

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Very interesting indeed…I’m still not sold on what may or may not be out there…the doors ajar simply due to how limited our knowledge is at this point…we still haven’t worked out this rock yet…nice one :beers:

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